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Nathan
Jun 6

Natalia

14 comments

This is quite a bit more difficult to learn than Andreina, I'm on part 7 now.

Fair play to Tavi for producing this tutorial, you can see it wasn't easy to do.

 

I've finished online Uni at last after 6 long years so will have a lot more time now to learn songs and post videos. I'll post one just after finishing this piece and again in a few months when it's had some practice (and hopefully include Andreina if I can get bar 6 under control).

 

Has anyone else learned this yet?

 

 

Nathan
Jun 8Edited: Jun 8

Not really worth sharing at the moment. I can play it through now but will have to give it at least a couple of weeks practice before it's anywhere near ready to record. I'm quite pleased with the first section, can play that fairly quick but the rest needs a lot of work to start building some tempo.

 

Mullenms you said you were working on this piece in your Andreina post, did you finish learning it? I'd also like to see another video update of how you've got on with Andreina. I'll record one as well and the video will show the difficulty I have with bar 6, don't seem to be making any progress with it.

 

Both tutorials are great additions, I've had a big sense of achievement from learning them and hope one day to be able to play them properly.

Alex
Jun 13

you're pretty brave for taking that on.. to me it seems like the hardest piece on the site repertoire after maybe the Dyens tango. I won't start it for a while I think but how's it going? you could record your progress even if the piece isn't finished - if you make the video private on youtube then only linked viewers can watch it.

Nathan
Jun 13

Hi Alex, after learning Andreina I had to learn this piece as well. When you watch Tavi's performance it does seem very difficult but now I've got over the hard part of remembering all the notes it's actually not that bad.

The first section that repeats I can almost play at the tempo Tavi plays, only obviously not as accurate. The two sections that follow I don't play as fast, still getting used to the chord changes and being able to grab them quicker. I'll give it another go today with a recording as I'm a bit happier with it now.

 

You play Cavatina very well I have no doubt you'd have no problem with Natalia. It's well worth working through the tutorials and being able to play this after. I agree with you that Tango might be more difficult again, I started on that but decided to leave it for a while, didn't get passed the first few bars!

Alex
Jun 13

The left hand moves much faster than any piece i've learned. I'll wait for your video for inspiration before I start it then :P good luck!

Nathan
Jun 14

Ok here goes!

 

Painful in parts but after 1 week have to be fairly happy with it, just have to practice every day and wait patiently for it to improve.

 

 

 

Alex
Jun 18

Nice job!!! Sorry just saw this. Very motivated to start the piece now. Now that you have the notes i would suggest isolating individual chord changes and practicing them ad infinitum - well until they become seamless.

 

Are you scottish at all? You look exactly like Craig Ferguson

Nathan
Jun 18

I find the start of the 2nd section probably the hardest chord changes which will need isolating. The first section is surprisingly easy compared to the second, which you can see as the tempo immediately slows right down, so plenty of practice needed on that part especially.

 

Cavatina is a little harder to learn I think, I'm on tutorial 3 now learning the bass notes part, hardest so far. You'll be fine with Natalia if you can play this.

No I'm Welsh, had to look who he was, watched some clips of the Late Show, thanks for the compliment, nice job he has!

Alex
Jun 20

I'm trying to learn the notes for Una Limosna at the moment. I might start Natalia after while I learn how to do a tremolo because I feel like that will take a long time. good luck with cavatina!

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Nathan
Jun 14Edited: Jun 14

The tricky end bit I struggle with where there's the option of using a bar instead, I might do that. I watched Ana Vidovic play it and that's what she does, good enough for me.

 

 

mullenms1
Jun 30

Hi Nathan

 

Great job with Natalia and yes I agree it is much harder than Andreina....I did get through the score but no fluency and have been side-tracked learning other pieces...think that is my biggest problem continually changing what I am working on! I'll get back to it soon and also post Andreina update in the not to distant future.....but again well done!

 

Regards

Martin

Nathan
Jun 30Edited: Jun 30

Thanks Martin, I have the same problem sometimes getting sidetracked but that's easy enough when there's so many great pieces to learn. I was finding Tango a bit too hard so decided to leave it for a while. I think the middle section of Natalia is the hardest, working your way down the fretboard with the quick chord changes. I've decided not to worry too much about fluency or struggling to reach certain chords, just keep practicing and let it develop slowly, it's going to take months/years anyway!

 

I'm almost a year into practicing Capricho Arabe and a couple of parts I really struggle with still. I hope you carry on with Natalia and look forward to your next Andreina update. I'll post a video in your Andreina thread soon, I haven't practiced it as much lately while learning new pieces, so I'll aim for next weekend with a recording.

Cheers,

Nathan

Nathan
Aug 12

I've messed up Bar 20 and completely forgotten about Bar 21-22, don't know how that happened but I'm going over the tutorial again to learn it properly!

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    Hi, I'm starting this piece and I'll be posting updates here - if anyone else is also learning this or wants to start with me you can post your progress here too!
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